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bsfloyd

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Common rhythm heard in recordings
« on: March 01, 2019, 04:02:55 PM »
Hello!  There is a specific rhythm pattern I keep hearing in several recordings I have of Arabic music - some belly dance music and some just percussion ensemble music.  This pattern is based on the Malfouf rhythm for three bars, and then tied off with a fourth bar modification.  So, the sequence would be:  D**T**T*, D**T**T*, D**T**T*, D*D*T***  with that fourth bar being very emphasized and dominant.

I hear this common rhythm as intros, outros, sometimes to transition from one main rhythm to another, etc., but I hear it ALOT!  And not just on the same CD from the same artist, it is pretty widespread.  Is this a commonly used sequence?  Is there a name for it?  Thanks.



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Re: Common rhythm heard in recordings
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2019, 03:26:55 AM »
Sometimes that pattern is called "Hagala", but this word actually means a dance of some desert tribes in Egypt and Libya. Thereof is a common step used in bellydance and related to this special variation of Malfuf.
Look:


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Re: Common rhythm heard in recordings
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2019, 07:36:16 AM »
Hagala!!  That’s exactly it, thanks.  A quick search on Hagala found me this:




There are also many belly dance instructional videos of this dance explaining the dance move.  It appears to be very popular.  I’m glad I can now recognize not only by rhythmic sound, but also by name for when in conversation :)

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Re: Common rhythm heard in recordings
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2019, 07:24:33 AM »
So, this brings up another question - this “sequence” Hagala is very popular.  I just received a couple new CD’s in the mail yesterday (Masters of Bellydance Vol 1, and Egyptian Drum Passion) and the Hagala rhythm sequence is heard quite a bit on these two CD’s. 

So now I wonder, are there any other popular sequences used based on modified known rhythm structures?  Perhaps similarly based upon certain dances or folk music?  Thanks.

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Re: Common rhythm heard in recordings
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2019, 08:44:53 AM »
I cannot tell you for sure now. - Since I had it in a stealth mode, that way:

I often used the break at the end of this pattern to get some structure while training. It comes absolutely natural way. We have same signal in other rhythms too: look Chiftelli or Samai thaqil! - It seems to be, common like Wahda (a strong Doum on first beat). Actually I started the "Semantics" topic to seek for more.

Those state until you asked...
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2019, 09:20:22 AM »
... and now, I tried to do it in words first time and got an explosion of new impression.

After my brief explanation I tried to come to the roots.... So "Hagala" (الحجالة) isn't an Arab term at all...! Even the Arabs pronounce it "Hagala", not "Hajala" - it comes from the nomades and someone pointed it out with a meaning like a "shamble step" (Don't know I found the right word - "schlurfen" in German means a step motion not uplifting feet). ...and with the right term I've got that clip of a folkloric performance of the original Hagala. Open your eyes and your mouth. You cannot say "Wow!", because it's mindblowing!
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Re: Common rhythm heard in recordings
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2019, 05:09:33 PM »
I FINALLY found time to watch this full video!!  Yes, very wow!  A nice video from the mid-70’s, I love watching older videos and movies :). Surely the rhythm in this topic is well prevalent throughout.  Again very nice to see and hear the connection.  Yes, I remember in a dance instruction video of hagala, the dancer mentions the hip step down moves as the main structure of the dance.  I can see that being confirmed in this older video as well.  Very nice find!!

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Re: Common rhythm heard in recordings
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2019, 05:12:37 PM »
Ah, here is that more modern video I speak of:




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Re: Common rhythm heard in recordings
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2019, 11:55:57 PM »
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