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dHuGo:
Hi, bsfloyd, it's a pleasure to read your briefing. - I like it because I feel a lot of fresh inspiration - your motivation seems to be fully intrinsic...

I was a little afraid to meet a professional drummer here, who has to do some noise in a band next month, while the former percussionist actually was running....  ;)
In that case we had to find a fitting drum immediately, to do the best drills right now etc...

I can relax instead, enjoying you may grow with those things you're doing.  :) Don't worry, it's not a shame to have no sounds in only one (!) week. I guess you can learn from your Toca the whole year as minimum. - I would wait with a new drum and try to get stable clear sounds first. All will help you to take the best choice thereafter.

Gawheret El Fan is quiete good. My second darbuka is a New Generation size from Arab Instruments (made in cooperation with the ägyptian manufacturer) and it has great sounds. - The Hossam Ramsy line of Meinl has New Generation and Sombaty sizes too. - All of them are great drums I can fully recommend.

I might figure it out saying the Gawheret El Fan is the Ferrari in darbuka world, the smaller Meinl ones, on wich we talked before, some kind of Lotus or Mustang - and we didn't talk on McLaren, Saleen etc. at all. - So all of them are worth to do it with - if only you have a license. And even when you have it - for a truck - it's absolutely new to drive a sports car. Your long term experience may help you, but it doesn't insure you for proper and safe driving. - You may understand me in those words?

So my Sombaty Plus by Gewheret El Fan has an effective 9" skin is about 19" tall and about 6 kg weight (https://www.arabinstruments.com/doumbek-darbuka/buy-doumbek-darbuka). Your Toca is similar to the New Generation but should be more light weighted. The shape of the body doesn't matter a lot: "martini" form narrows the edge zone and gives a sharper sound, "bowl" form expands the edge zone and allows to play more clear modulations of the tekka sounds.

But the really benefit for learning and playing is your drum have a well rounded rim!!! It helps you to find the right playing positions at the edge.

And at the end I'd like to tell you one thing you have not on your mind yet: The main discomfort beginning with eastern percussions causes, you have no sight on the skin!!! - Sleep it over: You have over 30 years seen wich part of the drum you're hitting right by the way. That's an important feedback you're missing with your new drum for now!

So let's finish today and think further how to transfer some of your old experience to your new playing next time.
See you!

bsfloyd:
I hope you are having a Happy New Year!!!

Very good words, dHuGo - I understand your referencing perfectly.  Much of what you say carries over to pretty much any instrument quality level as well.  I am a guitarist as well as percussionist and the higher quality the instrument, the more intricate the tone and response “can” be.  Like you said, the player needs to have the experience to pull the intricacy from the instrument.

So, like you say I am best suited for a Mustang for now - a good car to learn driving in :)

I am happy to say I am getting what I believe are acceptable Doums, Teks, and kas for now.  I am trusting my 30 year musical ears are helping me.  I know what the tone needs to be, I just needed a bit of time to pull them from the drum.  I have been finding YouTube to be my current learning resource for the time being.  I have been finding Geoff Childers and Guy Shalom rythm videos to be my main driving source.  I am learning the basic structures of the rhythms first and getting them imprinted into my head and muscle memory.  I am also learning some of the fills add ins, but I am keeping those at a minimum for now.  I am mainly focusing on the base structures and getting the pulse very pronounced.  It is quite helpful that being a long time drummer that I fully understand shythm structure and timing in all the time signatures.  What may take a new drummer a while to understand a 9/8 time signature, I feel right at home with.

However, what you stated is my current hurdle to get over - the playing position of the head because I cannot see it!  You are right, I have been seeing my drums in perfect view for a very long time and now I cannot.  But, it is getting better.  It took me a few days to be able to get a somewhat decent ka tone as the striking angle was odd to me.  Luckily, it is a trouble spot for many newcomers and there are quite a few videos on this subject.  Though it still needs a good amount of work, it is slowly coming along.  I will persevere....

It is evident that you have a great deal of knowledge.  I am very interested to hear about your journey and experiences!  Do you play professionally?  Are you playing for dancers?  Drum circles?  Music groups?  Though in my very rural area, I don’t see myself playing for any dancers, but I would love to find some stringed (Oud perhaps)or wind (Ney or other flute) instruments to play traditional music with.

Again, your advice and experience has been very helpful to my learning and I thank you very much!! 

dHuGo:
Hello, again,
you make me so happy.

That's a lot of new good stuff you found. I feel you bring really good vibes to me and our forum.

So, I think, I have some usefull tricks left for beginners and intermediates and - maybe - some idea for advanced too. I'll  put them in new topics. The plan is ready about one year, I didn't start because of a flood of nasty spam attacks last year.

Now it seems to me  to be the right time for new input here.

Am I professionall?! - Negativ for now - all I do is learning by doing and it's just for fun - but I do my best.  :)

(btw: I really had some dancer on my mind when I chosed the more expensive professional drum, that's true...
Don't ask me - it's long sad story - and we'd need some beer to survive it.  ;) )

See you....

bsfloyd:
I am very happy to have encouraged you to post your tutorial work - I’m sure I will benefit from it!  It would be great to see more action here again.  I spent a good couple of hours reading through many older threads.  It looks like there used to be a good amount of activity here.  Let’s hope the forum can get back to that.

And.... I’m always up for a beer! :)

I look forward to your tutorial posts to come.

dHuGo:

--- Quote from: bsfloyd on January 27, 2019, 06:18:48 AM ---On slightly another note, I remember you saying that you have a “New Generation” drum.  What sets this instrument apart from a standard darbuka/doumbek?  I feel I have been advancing well in my skills and would like to upgrade to a nicer drum.  Sadly I cannot afford a quality clay instrument, but would still like to get into a nicer aluminum instrument over my plastic one.  Thanks!

--- End quote ---

Sure, we had a link before, with an overview in weight, size and prices. There you can see the New Generation is heavier, taller and a lot more expensive... I think, well, it's not the answer you're interested in.

My decision some years ago, as I remember I had had same trouble like you these days. -  Then I found this site:

https://www.arabinstruments.com/help-you-choose-darbuka


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