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Thanks for the confirmation!  This what I had suspected ;)

I read the thread, and I had a sure hunch that the weight of the shell had a significant role.  I just know the inner surface of my plain aluminum drum has many porous spots in it, hence the lower price tag of say $130 US dollars.  Yes, it is still a relatively thick shell with a good amount of weight - but if the more expensive pearl drums had a smoother inner surface I would think it would have a better tone.  The photos seen on the websites looks like a smoother inner surface (from what can be seen), but I am looking only at photos and not in my actual hands.

Working in the field of metrology, I know aluminum comes in several various grades, and can be worked with several different finishes.  I would like to think that a drum costing up to $300 more than the plain drums would be using higher quality metals with a higher grade of inner finish work - not just the fancy pearl inlay work alone.

Thanks for the link!  I will have a read...

Hello and Happy New Year!!!  I hope 2020 brings us all much happiness and many drumming opportunities!

A question regarding the types of GEF darbuka.  I have a classic GEF plain metal drum.  It is their entry level darbuka with the plain finish - mine is the gold color.  I am curious to know if the GEF mother of pearl drums are of better sound quality or if it is just an aesthetic difference.  I mean, they sure are beautiful looking drums, but do they sound the same as the standard plain aluminum versions?  Is the grade of aluminum different, which I agree could have a noticeable difference in tone, or are they using the same grade of materials in all of their drums?


Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Saidi [from: Training / Practice plan]
« on: December 27, 2019, 06:25:35 AM »
Great videos!!  Thanks for sharing these :). Much variety in the first, and I’ve always enjoyed a sword dance.  The elegance is mesmerizing!  It’s a shame that this dancing is not common in the States.  There are some small areas here and there, but none really in driving distances to us.  It’s sad :(

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Saidi [from: Training / Practice plan]
« on: December 23, 2019, 06:30:25 PM »
Very good performance!!  Thanks for the video.  I love the Saidi rhythm - quite simple, yet very galant!

This is the first I’ve seen a dance in use with a staff.  Is the staff in substitute of a sword?

Announcements / Re: New members
« on: December 21, 2019, 07:14:23 PM »
Hello dHuGo!!!  Just a note to say I am not gone.  I still visit here regularly to see if any new activity has taken place.  Sadly, not many active members here.  But, I am still very active in my middle eastern drumming activities :). Just recently I accompanied my kids high school show choir performances on the drum kit.  However, there was one song where hand drums were required.  I had the choice of using the school’s conga or djembe, but I chose to use my Savvas darbuka instead :D. It sounded wonderful and I was able to teach a lot of students about our wonderful instrument!

So, I am still here and plan to do my best on contributing to the forum when applicable.  I wish you and yours a very happy holidays!!!  Talk again soon!

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Malfouf
« on: October 02, 2019, 04:57:22 PM »
Breakthrough!  Not only have I now got the Karachi rhythm with alternating hands, but I also got the more intricate Khaleegee rhythm as well  8)

Now to work on them slaps....

I have to admit I tried the technique shown in the video and found myself failing - for now.  Very hard to get my hand relaxed enough to get my fingers to slap my palm.  But, I know relaxation is the key here and I will persevere!

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Tuning Question
« on: September 25, 2019, 05:24:21 PM »
Interesting experience you had - thanks for sharing that.  It makes me wonder if Remo was new to the darbuka at the you had experienced this.  They seem to be much more popular now so maybe they are getting their bugs worked out.  I always wonder what if Evans would make darbuka (and other middle eastern drums) heads.  I very much like their drum kit heads and I think they could likely do a good job.  I have no experience with their Conga or bongo heads though.  You are a conga player, aren’t you?

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Tuning Question
« on: September 23, 2019, 06:29:15 PM »
Thanks for the information, dHuGo.  I think it is just minute differences here.  Looking closer at the drum in certain light, the gap between the rim and body is also not even - in fact it is relevant to the differences in the skin non-flushness.  I think I will try a bit of leveling, but focusing more so on the tone of the drum.

I have thought about getting the natural looking Remo Skyndeep, but I like the Orange mist as well on this drum  so I think I just need another drum that comes with the Skyndeep :D

Great video!!  I assume this technique carries over to the vertical darbuka well?

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Tuning Question
« on: September 22, 2019, 05:59:02 PM »

Back again with a tuning question this time.  This question is related to the GEF Standard Classic that I have with a Remo Orange Mist head.  Great workhorse of a drum!  Nothing flashy here, but a simple drum with a great sound.

First off, the drum sounds good as shipped.  It is tighter (higher pitched) than I would normally like, but at the same time is good to have an alternatively tuned drum than my others.  One thing I noticed is that the skin flushness varies about around the ring.  Now when I say this, I am talking very slight differences - like 2mm differences.  Example being that it is flush around 3/4 of the rim and dips down a couple of millimeters around the remaining 1/4 of the rim.  My question is, are these shells / rings made so tightly tolerance that the skin should be perfectly flush all the way around the rim?  Should I loosen the dipped down 1/4 portion to level the skin?


Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Malfouf
« on: September 16, 2019, 07:30:34 PM »
Very true!  I’m still working on mastering my left hand Doum.  It is getting better... :)

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Malfouf
« on: September 10, 2019, 07:09:21 PM »
Hello all!  The ever popular Malfouf rhythm.  Looking at the base structure of this rhythm we have:


And the very common ornate way we have:

DkkTkkTk - with the common hand pattern being Right left left Right left left Right left.  For ease of spelling out the entire words we’ll just write RllRllRl (capital letters being emphasized, or accented).

However, I find myself playing this rhythm much smoother with I use an alternate hand pattern.  I like to use the following:

RlrLrlRl - again the capital letters having the accents.  So the rhythm is the same, but the hand pattern is different.  Is this a common thing is the Arabic drumming realm, or am I doing a no-no and would laughed out of a drumming circle if ever I were in one?


(p.s. - of course this hand pattern would not work with the Karachi rhythm :0)

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