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Hello and Happy New Year!!!  I hope 2020 brings us all much happiness and many drumming opportunities!

A question regarding the types of GEF darbuka.  I have a classic GEF plain metal drum.  It is their entry level darbuka with the plain finish - mine is the gold color.  I am curious to know if the GEF mother of pearl drums are of better sound quality or if it is just an aesthetic difference.  I mean, they sure are beautiful looking drums, but do they sound the same as the standard plain aluminum versions?  Is the grade of aluminum different, which I agree could have a noticeable difference in tone, or are they using the same grade of materials in all of their drums?


Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Tuning Question
« on: September 22, 2019, 05:59:02 PM »

Back again with a tuning question this time.  This question is related to the GEF Standard Classic that I have with a Remo Orange Mist head.  Great workhorse of a drum!  Nothing flashy here, but a simple drum with a great sound.

First off, the drum sounds good as shipped.  It is tighter (higher pitched) than I would normally like, but at the same time is good to have an alternatively tuned drum than my others.  One thing I noticed is that the skin flushness varies about around the ring.  Now when I say this, I am talking very slight differences - like 2mm differences.  Example being that it is flush around 3/4 of the rim and dips down a couple of millimeters around the remaining 1/4 of the rim.  My question is, are these shells / rings made so tightly tolerance that the skin should be perfectly flush all the way around the rim?  Should I loosen the dipped down 1/4 portion to level the skin?


Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Malfouf
« on: September 10, 2019, 07:09:21 PM »
Hello all!  The ever popular Malfouf rhythm.  Looking at the base structure of this rhythm we have:


And the very common ornate way we have:

DkkTkkTk - with the common hand pattern being Right left left Right left left Right left.  For ease of spelling out the entire words we’ll just write RllRllRl (capital letters being emphasized, or accented).

However, I find myself playing this rhythm much smoother with I use an alternate hand pattern.  I like to use the following:

RlrLrlRl - again the capital letters having the accents.  So the rhythm is the same, but the hand pattern is different.  Is this a common thing is the Arabic drumming realm, or am I doing a no-no and would laughed out of a drumming circle if ever I were in one?


(p.s. - of course this hand pattern would not work with the Karachi rhythm :0)

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Oud, Ney, and Darbuka
« on: August 28, 2019, 05:50:15 PM »
So, I could have posted this in any of the sub forums here, but seeing how darbuka is my main instrument I chose here.

I am looking for recordings, CD’s of the classic trio of Oud, Ney, and Darbuka.  Do any exist?  I love the simple yet elegant sound of these three instruments together and would love to purchase some CD’s of this.


Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Egyptian style vs. Turkish style darbuka
« on: August 09, 2019, 05:29:43 PM »
Hello gang.  With the recent spam activity going on lately (sorry, I’m married and have no interest in dating sites), I thought I’d start an actual darbuka thread up.

So, other than the obvious the skin reaches the edge of the drum and tuning lugs exposed, what other characteristics separate the Turkish style to Egyptian style darbuka?  I do have one Turkish style Zaza percussion drum but it is a low cost instrument - though it sounds surprisingly great for the money I paid for it.  I noticed the shell is much, much thinner than the GEF and Savvas Egyptian style darbuka I have.  What other characteristics are different?  I would love to be able to afford an Emin Turkish style drum (they sure are purty!), but not just yet.

So, what do you think?  What do you like or dislike about the two different style?

Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Mid-East drums
« on: May 19, 2019, 07:24:09 AM »
Hello gang!  Apologies for my absence, though I have still been drumming away!

I am considering purchasing one of these Mid-East drums and wanted to get opinions on them first:

I know very little about the company - are these good quality, reputable instruments?

Thanks and drum on!!

Buy & Sell Darbuka / Clay Darbuka
« on: March 30, 2019, 06:01:34 AM »
Hello gang!!  Ok, while I like the sound of both metal and clay darbuka, it is the clay versions I really love.  It is the raw and organic sound of them that draws me in.  Yes, the metal version with synthetic head has that well know and fiery sound - very crisp and poppy - but the clay versions earthy tone gets me every time I hear them in recordings.

Because my experience in shopping for clay darbuka is very limited, I have really only seen Savvas clay drums.  And yes they are beautiful, look very well built, and sound amazing, but are expensive and out of my budget.  Is there an alternative to the Savvas line that are more affordable?  Also, is there a synthetic head version clay darbuka that still has the tied on head, only not actual skin?  I understand the real skin heads are a trait of the clay drums, but just wanted to know if such synthetic heads existed for these.


Hello!  There is a specific rhythm pattern I keep hearing in several recordings I have of Arabic music - some belly dance music and some just percussion ensemble music.  This pattern is based on the Malfouf rhythm for three bars, and then tied off with a fourth bar modification.  So, the sequence would be:  D**T**T*, D**T**T*, D**T**T*, D*D*T***  with that fourth bar being very emphasized and dominant.

I hear this common rhythm as intros, outros, sometimes to transition from one main rhythm to another, etc., but I hear it ALOT!  And not just on the same CD from the same artist, it is pretty widespread.  Is this a commonly used sequence?  Is there a name for it?  Thanks.

Riq, Mazhar, bendir, Tar... Lover / Daf, Bendir, and Tar... Oh my!!!
« on: February 07, 2019, 05:07:33 PM »
Sorry for the bad Wizard of Oz pun, but I couldn’t resist :)

Anyway, I wanted to get a better knowledge regarding the frame drums and their role in an Arabic percussion small ensemble.  So, let’s say that there is a lead darbuka player blazing out them solos along with the classic rhythms, and there is a classic Riq player adding some jingle and high end sizzle to the mix - of the three listed in the topic (Daf, Tar, Bendir), which would be the most go to frame drum to keep the basics of the rhythms going strong?  I mean, we have the Bendir with it’s snare like buzz, the Daf with its jingly jingles, and the Tar with its dry and pure tones.  Which drum is more likely used when?  Is this something commonly decided by region?  Player’s and ensemble’s choice?  I am wanting to invest in one these frame drums for the role of keeping the basic rhythm structure going, but I am a bit overwhelmed of the choices.

On another note, what if the trio was only a duo.  What percussion choices would be a good mix?  Let’s say darbuka and _______?   Or, Riq and _______?  Or,.... _______ and _______?


Announcements / New members
« on: January 13, 2019, 05:16:04 PM »
Since I’ve joined the forums here I’ve noticed a lot of new members joining but not a lot of activity.  I’m thinking spam bots?.....

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Great video
« on: January 05, 2019, 05:45:40 PM »
If you have the time, I very much enjoyed watching this over a pint of double IPA -


Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Training / Practice plan
« on: January 05, 2019, 03:51:17 PM »
Hello everyone!!  So, being very new in my darbuka journey, I have solely been working on getting a solid Doum, Tek, and ka.  I haven’t really been following any classic rhythms, just creating my own slowly and focusing on my tonal output.  Now, much more comfortable with my timbre, it is time to move forward.

I am looking for advice on a practice regimen and I think I have two theories.  I am thinking of starting out with three classic rhythms - however I am wondering if it would be best to start with three rhythms of one time signature (be it 2/4, 4/4, 6/8, etc.), or start with a mix of three.  I am feeling the latter, perhaps the most three commonly used rhythms and build from there once those three are glued in my muscle memory, and then add an additional rhythm each time to keep moving forward.   However, I wanted to get some insight from the much more experienced players here on what you all found to work best for you in your learnings.

Much appreciated for any advice!!

Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Darbuka newbie - *Mod: Buy a Darbuka
« on: December 27, 2018, 05:39:56 PM »
Hello all!  I just wanted to check in to say hello and see if this forum was still relatively active.  I am a new darbuka player (long time percussionist), hoping to find a community to learn from and share with.  Thanks!

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