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Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Re: Darbuka newbie - *Mod: Buy a Darbuka
« on: June 29, 2019, 03:43:22 PM »
Just curious, why is Emin Darbuka so expensive??  ???

Hello zippo and welcome!!  The Emin instruments look to be made to the finest details and the construction of them look very nice.  However, without having the opportunity to play them first hand, I cannot say why they are priced the way they are.  I do believe the fact that they are made one by one and by hand has a strong factor in the price.  Have a look at Savvas percussion and the wooden Hubb drums - all a good amount more than other drums.

Hello Sailbum and welcome to the forums!!!

Crap, I posted a reply with more explanations but it didnít go through because another post was coming through while I was typing it.  Maybe it will still show up later - hopefully.  If not, I will type it up again at a later time as Iím rather tight on time right now.

Nonetheless, wanted to give you a welcome!!

DHuGo - at this point we are just feeding the troll.  We could feed it forever and it will never go away.  Or, we could just be done with it and keep moving on with music.  I like the latter :)

Ok, ok - this thread is way over my head.  I tend to forget that Mid East music does have a strong spirituality, and for that I apologize for my naive nature.

So, because I donít follow or connect with this spirituality in Mid East music, I will bow out of this thread.  Because music is such a universal language, I am connected to the music itself.  If I must share my feelings, they are that of neo-paganism ;)

Iím sorry, but how does this post relate to the Ney?  Unless trollers will troll.  The Ney is a beautiful instrument in all its glory and I love to listen to it.  I can play a bit of it, but I listen to others much better  ;D

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 15, 2019, 06:32:14 AM »
Great work, dHuGo,  Now we have a detailed score  :)

@ davidko2 - I think the confusing part is that there are several parts working off each other, and the piano part is very syncopated with its off beats.  I think if you play either parts (udu or darbuka as posted above) it will sound just fine.  And, if you wish to create your own line within those two rhythms you can have your own creation   ;)

Have fun with it!

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 13, 2019, 04:04:53 PM »
thanks a lot!

time to work on it now.

Also, this website is a gem:

My favorite resource!!

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 12, 2019, 05:39:10 PM »
Ah ha - yes, I see it (and more so feel it).  Another new 5 beat rhythm to add to my playing!

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 10, 2019, 03:55:12 PM »
Wonderful!!  Now I need to buy an udu  :D

It was fun working that rhythm out.  Itís good to know all those years of not using my rhythm reading skills didnít fall far away from me  ;)

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 09, 2019, 05:26:56 AM »
Great post!  Surely written as a 5/4 rhythm and also for Udu.  I wondered what the instrument was in the recording.  I am not very familiar with the udu.  Seems like a very cool instrument.

I do read standard notation and rhythms.  The best way (IMO) to understand this would be to break it down into its sub beats:

1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ 5 _ _ _ |
O       X   O   .   X   O       X     X |
O   v   X   O   v   X   O       X   X X |

The top line represents the 5 count measure and the two bottom lines represents the played hits.  Sounds as - 1, 2 and, and 4, 5 ah, 1 and, 2 and, 3 and, 4, 5 and ah.

I hope this helps!

*Mod: redacted and set note transcript to font "Courier"

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 07, 2019, 04:14:50 PM »
 :) I knew you would find the time and have the patience to do this.  Letís see what the OP thinks...

Introduce Yourself / Re: I am the new girl
« on: June 06, 2019, 04:16:23 PM »

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 05, 2019, 04:57:44 PM »
Hello and welcome to the forums!!  I listen to the sound sample several times but it is kind of hard to make out.  I actually couldnít even figure out the time signature.  For a small bit I thought I heard a 5/4 rhythm, but then it could have just been syncopated accents.  I will study it some more.  Iím sure dHuGo will chime in soon... heís good at this kind of stuff :)

Introduce Yourself / Re: I am the new girl
« on: June 05, 2019, 04:51:33 PM »
Welcome to the forums!!!

Hello Willys!  Iím sorry, there are no other lesson techniques I found in regards to your question.  Surely the video you found and posted cover this independence technique, as does the video dHuGo posted earlier on in the thread.

I guess hand independence was never a concern to me as Iíve played percussion instruments for many, many years.  Because of this, limb independence comes more natural to me.  And, you may find as you watch different videos of different players that they are not always the same ;). Keep in mind that the darbuka / doumbek is a folk instrument to many.

However, dHuGo posted a link to one of the best sites for darbuka learning and playing that I know of - the khafif site.  When I was applying my percussive skills to the darbuka, I just followed the rule of D(oum) and T(ek) with my right (dominant) hand, and the k(a) with my left hand.  The khafif site has the many, many rhythms in their basic form and then the rhythms with their fills form.  While this doesnít fully go into soling mode, it does offer a good fancier version of the rhythms.  IMO, the soloing will come natural as these foundations are mastered.

On another note, my wife is currently undergoing belly dance learnings.  She is much preferring the Egyptian style of dance.  It is much fun to be able to play the rhythms for her.  In your regards, your wife is a dance instructor, are there any other drummers in your area you could learn from/with?

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