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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Malfouf
« on: October 02, 2019, 04:57:22 PM »
Breakthrough!  Not only have I now got the Karachi rhythm with alternating hands, but I also got the more intricate Khaleegee rhythm as well  8)

Now to work on them slaps....

I have to admit I tried the technique shown in the video and found myself failing - for now.  Very hard to get my hand relaxed enough to get my fingers to slap my palm.  But, I know relaxation is the key here and I will persevere!

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Tuning Question
« on: September 25, 2019, 05:24:21 PM »
Interesting experience you had - thanks for sharing that.  It makes me wonder if Remo was new to the darbuka at the you had experienced this.  They seem to be much more popular now so maybe they are getting their bugs worked out.  I always wonder what if Evans would make darbuka (and other middle eastern drums) heads.  I very much like their drum kit heads and I think they could likely do a good job.  I have no experience with their Conga or bongo heads though.  You are a conga player, arenít you?

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Tuning Question
« on: September 23, 2019, 06:29:15 PM »
Thanks for the information, dHuGo.  I think it is just minute differences here.  Looking closer at the drum in certain light, the gap between the rim and body is also not even - in fact it is relevant to the differences in the skin non-flushness.  I think I will try a bit of leveling, but focusing more so on the tone of the drum.

I have thought about getting the natural looking Remo Skyndeep, but I like the Orange mist as well on this drum  so I think I just need another drum that comes with the Skyndeep :D

Great video!!  I assume this technique carries over to the vertical darbuka well?

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Tuning Question
« on: September 22, 2019, 05:59:02 PM »

Back again with a tuning question this time.  This question is related to the GEF Standard Classic that I have with a Remo Orange Mist head.  Great workhorse of a drum!  Nothing flashy here, but a simple drum with a great sound.

First off, the drum sounds good as shipped.  It is tighter (higher pitched) than I would normally like, but at the same time is good to have an alternatively tuned drum than my others.  One thing I noticed is that the skin flushness varies about around the ring.  Now when I say this, I am talking very slight differences - like 2mm differences.  Example being that it is flush around 3/4 of the rim and dips down a couple of millimeters around the remaining 1/4 of the rim.  My question is, are these shells / rings made so tightly tolerance that the skin should be perfectly flush all the way around the rim?  Should I loosen the dipped down 1/4 portion to level the skin?


Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Malfouf
« on: September 16, 2019, 07:30:34 PM »
Very true!  Iím still working on mastering my left hand Doum.  It is getting better... :)

Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Malfouf
« on: September 10, 2019, 07:09:21 PM »
Hello all!  The ever popular Malfouf rhythm.  Looking at the base structure of this rhythm we have:


And the very common ornate way we have:

DkkTkkTk - with the common hand pattern being Right left left Right left left Right left.  For ease of spelling out the entire words weíll just write RllRllRl (capital letters being emphasized, or accented).

However, I find myself playing this rhythm much smoother with I use an alternate hand pattern.  I like to use the following:

RlrLrlRl - again the capital letters having the accents.  So the rhythm is the same, but the hand pattern is different.  Is this a common thing is the Arabic drumming realm, or am I doing a no-no and would laughed out of a drumming circle if ever I were in one?


(p.s. - of course this hand pattern would not work with the Karachi rhythm :0)

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Oud, Ney, and Darbuka
« on: September 08, 2019, 07:50:43 PM »
Thatís awesome you are able to visit such places on your holidays!  I am in envy as my holidays usually end up working around the house. 

This is great information, I will look that up on YouTube.  Frame Drums are rather nice to me actually!  They are some of the most earliest percussion instruments.  I have been longing for a Tar.... :)

Hello barryallen and welcome to the forums!!

I remember seeing that app and thought it was kinda cool.  Though I mainly use and like Darbuka Rhythms by Artem Uzunov, but itís not fully free.

Again, welcome!!

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Oud, Ney, and Darbuka
« on: September 03, 2019, 06:06:19 PM »
Hello dHuGo - thank you for the links!  Yes, I am very well aware of the Arab Instrument Team videos of this topic and very much enjoy to listen to them.  I was just hoping to be able to find some CDís that I can listen to in my car.  I know the Team from Sons Deí Lorient have some similar videos as well.

The second link you provided is very lovely duo music of Ney and Oud (very traditional it appears), but is missing one instrument, lol.  I am hoping to find a trio in CD format - which I know even CDís is becoming more and more rarely listened to with all the digital download these days.  Ha, to show my age I still remember my 8-Track collection 😀

Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Oud, Ney, and Darbuka
« on: August 28, 2019, 05:50:15 PM »
So, I could have posted this in any of the sub forums here, but seeing how darbuka is my main instrument I chose here.

I am looking for recordings, CDís of the classic trio of Oud, Ney, and Darbuka.  Do any exist?  I love the simple yet elegant sound of these three instruments together and would love to purchase some CDís of this.


Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Re: Egyptian style vs. Turkish style darbuka
« on: August 21, 2019, 06:31:22 PM »
Ah, the Riq!!!  Such a lovely instrument!  Do keep us informed of your progress :)

Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Re: Egyptian style vs. Turkish style darbuka
« on: August 11, 2019, 09:17:04 AM »
Hello dHuGo !

I will do a forum search for those comparison / argument threads...

Mine is very lightweight too, which I admit to liking.  I also like the exposed tuning system.  I read some older threads that people did not like the exposed tuning as they smash their hands, fingers, or knuckles on them.  I donít find any trouble with this personally.  I just keep the drum positioned in such a way that my hands fit just between the tuning lugs - no troubles.

As mentioned, mine was very inexpensive and Iím sure you know the minimal costs on this Zaza line.  I would like to get a bass dohola in one of these, I believe they are close to a 12Ē head.  Mid-East drums makes them.  One day I will get an Emin of one of these.  I would get the Turkish style of his over the Egyptian style as I already have very nice Egyptian style drums.

I assume yours was made and purchased in Turkey?  Is it a branded name or a custom maker?  Itís a shame you canít find a head for it now.  Have you looked up the Drum Doctor?  I noticed he is a member here and also has a website.  Perhaps he can help you out in re-skinning it...

Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Egyptian style vs. Turkish style darbuka
« on: August 09, 2019, 05:29:43 PM »
Hello gang.  With the recent spam activity going on lately (sorry, Iím married and have no interest in dating sites), I thought Iíd start an actual darbuka thread up.

So, other than the obvious the skin reaches the edge of the drum and tuning lugs exposed, what other characteristics separate the Turkish style to Egyptian style darbuka?  I do have one Turkish style Zaza percussion drum but it is a low cost instrument - though it sounds surprisingly great for the money I paid for it.  I noticed the shell is much, much thinner than the GEF and Savvas Egyptian style darbuka I have.  What other characteristics are different?  I would love to be able to afford an Emin Turkish style drum (they sure are purty!), but not just yet.

So, what do you think?  What do you like or dislike about the two different style?

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