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It seems skin was replaced by a new one.
Looking shape, decor - and white paint at the inner side - it reminds me the Syrian Darbuka I tried (before buying an Arab Instruments New Generation).

That's all I may tell you about the pic. Enjoy and good luck!
 :)

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Ney, Kawala Lovers / Buy a Nay
« on: October 25, 2016, 09:48:39 AM »
...
Few weeks later I found a online shop driven by an Egyptian guy who is creating  their own Nays and Kavalas. His name is Marwan Hassan and he is living just 40 min away from my home.

http://www.shakuhachi-shop.de/produkt-kategorie/nay-neys-floeten    Unfortunately no English version with Marwans web page   :'(
...

Thank you, ol2tmx. That's good news!
Greetings from Munich.
 ;D

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Old Darbuka Polish
« on: February 20, 2016, 01:26:06 PM »
Forget the tomato paste (and the ketchup too)... - I tested it with some old piece of aluminium - there's absolutely no result. So we can see that it's the vinegar in  ketchup cleaning metal surface.

It's an acidic reaction, I wouldn't recommend that with a darbuka body at all.

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Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Re: Drum lover's video album
« on: February 03, 2016, 04:54:23 AM »
Middle-Eastern hand drum video album. (http://iqaat.com/v-web/gallery/album05)

That link doesn't work...  :(

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Buy & Sell Darbuka / Re: Need Alexandria!
« on: February 03, 2016, 04:50:11 AM »
Sorry Arab Instruments Shop doesn't offer any Alexandria Doumbeks. - Look Bavly Music or Music Outfitters instead!
(I found it via Google).

...or try it on eBay

Good luck!

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This is how the copper darbuka sounds:



And this is how the aluminium one sounds:





Thank you, those sound samples are great. - But pay attention:
The aluminium darbuka (Meinl HE-114 8" x 14 1/2") comes with synthetic head - the other one, made of (Meinl HE-205 7 7/8" x 15 1/2"), is with goat skin.

That makes a difference too.

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Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Re: Looking for Good Doumbek to use easily!!!
« on: January 28, 2016, 07:42:14 PM »
For anyone that could be a new comers to such type of drum, your physique is typically produced with ceramic pottery, machined lightweight aluminum, or possibly birdwatcher. :) :)

Hi, I thought, a bird watcher is a man watching birds!?! - Here it looks like to be some material of drum shell, isn't it?

Can someone explain it to me, what does that "birdwatcher" actually means???! - Maybe some translation via Google into English - than post the original term please?!
Thx!

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… but it really turned to become alloy along with birdwatcher.
… tend to be stitched on the birdwatcher along with alloy darbukas


Hi, I thought, a bird watcher is a man watching birds!?! - Here it looks like to be some type of alloy, isn't it?

Can someone explain it to me, what does that "birdwatcher" actually means???! - Maybe some translation via Google into English - than post the original term please?!
Thx!

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Old Darbuka Polish
« on: January 26, 2016, 02:35:48 PM »
P.S.
There is another interesting idea to clean up aluminium (kitchen utilities):
Use tomato ketchup instead the tooth paste. - It should be less abrasive but, be careful, surely it's more acidic.
(source: cleanipedia: Aluminium polieren und reinigen)

I'd try it with dried concentrated tomato paste only, wich you can buy in tubes.

Do the same washing, drying and conserving procedures thereafter - but I don't know, does it really make sense or not…

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Old Darbuka Polish
« on: January 26, 2016, 01:13:55 PM »
At the end, wash it up with a lot of warm water and some drops of dish soap within.
Use a hairdryer thereafter.

For finishing I’d use WD-40 spraying it overall the whole shell:
WD-40 liquid was developed for cleaning and protecting of various surfaces in space units. - There’s a lot of aluminium and its alloys in those technical equipment and further with high standards of physical and chemical stability and durability.

The WD-40 will form a film and displace the moisture on the metal surface, even in micro cracks too.

Personally me I put WD-40 on my Turkish beauty (at my avatar the left one). But I sprayed it on the outer surface only to prevent oxidation of the bright parts:
Because aluminium oxide is much harder then poor aluminium, I hope for better sounds by time with a lot of new patina inside the drum.

You already have an old drum, so you may don't touch the inner side, I'd recommend you. - And please tell us, what did you do and what is the result of your work!
Good luck!

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Old Darbuka Polish
« on: January 26, 2016, 01:09:28 PM »
Let me tell about my grandma:
She sweared to know the best way for cleansing up our table silver - using some common tooth paste and a soft flannel cloth to polish it with smooth circular motions. - I’ve seen it with my own eyes: It really works with silver to get it bright and shiny.
Some of its patina remains in the deep of relief what improves appearance of surface ornaments. The only thing: Silver is a hard metal against aluminium is very soft…
( :o cleanipedia: What Products Can I Use When Cleaning Silver?)

So what, we use the paste to clean, whiten and polish our teeth – and to avoid acidic reactions, what may harm its enamel.
Though, if I had the problem with an old aluminium shell to clean, I would try that method of my grandma first and - of course – beginning somewhere on a little spot at the edge of the lower part of the body. You can see then, whether it works, what happens with metal surface and how do you like the finish – and if “yes”, go so on. - And you may proof several products and take your best choice.
Use tooth paste without additional water – as dry as possible - that prevents ingress of water into said micro cracks. The cloth you need should be very soft: I’d do it with chamois leather. For heavily soiled spots I’d try it very gently with a Scotch Brite or at least with some of that kind of cotton cloth used for body peeling in Hamam …

Remark:
All these tips are not approved, so you shall do it on your own risk.

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Old Darbuka Polish
« on: January 26, 2016, 12:29:32 PM »
However, I’m afraid, you’re a self-made man, so what can we do with an old aluminium shell like this!?:
(c) ebay

The reason for the matt dull gray covering the body of the drum is in oxidation of metal surface on the air over years.

Actually it’s very easy to remove aluminium-oxide with abrasives or acid liquid, but we would ultimately scratch the soft metal surface - and when the liquid gets inside of some micro cracks – and I’m sure, that they are - drum shell won’t sound any more and you can say “Good bye!” and waste it - or put flowers inside… …you understand!

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Old Darbuka Polish
« on: January 26, 2016, 10:18:21 AM »
Hi,
it’s a pity, there’s no photo, no further description of your best piece.

A lot depends of which materials you need to clean up; are surfaces regular or plane or with relief (hammered) etc.

Here’s a website with a little overview, what’s the diversity of “Syrian Darbuka”:
Alat Musik Gambus

So I may guess only, what your little problem looks like:



These two pics are taken from the website:
THE DRUM DOCTOR

It already might be an good answer to your question, isn’t it!?

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… to be continued …
 :o

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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Split Finger Technique Clips.
« on: January 26, 2016, 08:04:08 AM »
...and Zoba, :)
please take care! - There are some kinds of those rolls you've requested:
  • You may hit with index (or the ring) finger of both hands first, then same with ring (index) fingers:
    t4-k4-t2-k2-t4-k4-t2-k2-t4-k4-t2-k2-|… or
    t2-k2-t4-k4-t2-k2-t4-k4-t2-k2-t4-k4-|…

    It's actually a simple hand-to-hand roll, like this:
    t3-k2-t3-k2-t3-k2-t3-k2-t3-k2-t3-k2-|…
    The effect of the split technique is that additional wiping of hands is loosening your wrists and give the fingers more way. - The roll should become a little faster and louder that way.
  • A double stroke roll like this:
    T4-t2-K4-k2-T4-t2-K4-k2-T4-t2-K4-k2-|… or
    T2-t4-K2-k4-T2-t4-K2-k4-T2-t4-K2-k4-|…

    The clue of this is:
    One hands stroke is with one finger first, coming strong out of the wrist, with the second stroke automatically following after first as a counterpart.
    By the way - with higher speed the pattern may change to something like this:
    T4-K4t2-k2--T4-K4t2-k2--T4-K4t2-k2--|… i.e.
  • Last but not least a combination of both - a tricky "wind-wheeling" roll:
    t4-t2-k2-k4-t4-t2-k2-k4-t4-t2-k2-k4-|… or
    t4-k4-k2-t2-t4-k4-k2-t2-t4-k4-k2-t2-|… or
    t2-t4-k4-k2-t2-t4-k4-k2-t2-t4-k4-k2-|… or
    t2-k2-k4-t4-t2-k2-k4-t4-t2-k2-k4-t4-|…

    Therefore I must remark myself:
    I've never seen a demonstration of this pattern on darbouka yet. - But there are similar rolls with floating hands technique on congas, what I know.
    So this part stays a highly experimental idea only.
  • t - "Tek" (open tone with strong hand on the edge of the drum)
  • k - "Ka" (same with weak hand)
  • t2 resp. k4 - mark the used fingers - counted like in Persian Snap Technique (Pelang): 1 - small finger; 2 - ring finger; 3 - middle finger; 4 - index finger
You should practise it's all to feel the difference in speed and articulation of the sounds caused by different hand sets.
So you may have fun with it for a long time…!!!
 8)

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