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Hi bsfloyd, I was waiting for you ...
Don't know why araza opened his topic in this forums part, but let me explain why I think it's not absolutely wrong here: The opening asking was us to remember what actually happened in moment of our birth. I don't know but I were interested in long before and years ago I directly asked my Mum what is in her memory of those minutes. What do you think?! - Even my mother couldn't tell me any detail!!

And now I'm sure only in one thing: In moment of my birth I took my first breathe in this life on this world and I will continue to inhale / exhale until it's coming to an end. - And now the Ney - the most spiritual, in my eyes,  instrument of the Middle East - playing the Ney, whole thing  is in breathing! - Breathing is life as well as playing a flute, and you, araza, call all the music a show only - what a pitiful opinion!

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That is it, what musicians do - they play... Great musicians play great - that makes a difference.

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Hi araza, wow, what a lot of words to our two/three members, who's just here now....!?
Anyway, you're welcome. Since spirituality is great motivation for great musicians, let's talk about...!

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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 15, 2019, 05:57:40 PM »
Sorry, I have that "syncopated" feeling with Piano too, but my count is absolutely straight on every 2nd beat! - ... have no more words ...

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Ney, Kawala Lovers / Re: Everything is Flat!
« on: June 15, 2019, 05:52:42 PM »
Hi Yildiz,
after about a month, is your problem still evident?! - Me, I'm not succeeded to play on any flute - and Niri seems to be busy, busy a lot these days....

Now I remembered your topic not having any answer, I read over your question again. As an technician I might have some idea of what you're talking about - and now realised, that you don't have your problem with plastic Ney, while same troubles with all the reed, isnit?! - Then all problem is within material!!!

I think, reed as a natural recource should be a bit porous and "breathing", not so synthetics. So, you cannot avoid some lost of air in a dry reed tube. I wondered, might be to find even your problem in that. And than I found an advice to water your Ney every time before using...! Look here

http://www.bardoworks.it/NeyFAQ.html

pretty at the end.

I'd like to hear, my tip does work or not!
And good luck for your performance in August.

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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 14, 2019, 06:50:31 PM »
Hi, David, sorry it's all in process...

My 1st script was on a hypothesis of a 19 beat pattern related to the Piano chords as beat. - Now we have information that's a 5/4 base and Udu gives the timing! That means the Piano actually plays half notes, so we really have 38 beats instead of 19 in first part! There is a Cymbal playng the beats in 1st record.

I try to rewrite whole script, here is the beginning:

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
P===----        P===----        P===----| Piano
O       X   O   .   X   O   -   X     X | Udu
D   -   t   k   D   k   s   -   t   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
        P======-        P======-        | Piano
O   v   X   O   v   X   O       X   X X | Udu
D       T   k   k   T           T   t k | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
P===----        P===----        P===----| Piano
O       X   O   .   X   O   -   X     X | Udu
D   -   t   k   D   k   s   -   t   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
        P======-        P======-        | Piano
O   v   X   O   v   X   O       X   X X | Udu
D       T   k   k   T           T   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
pP==----        P===----        P===----| Piano
O       X   O   .   X   O   -   X     X | Udu
D   -   t   k   D   k   s   -   t   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
        P======-    p===P======-        | Piano
O   v   X   O   v   X   O       X   X X | Udu
D       T   k   k   T           T   t k | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
P===----        P===----        P===----| Piano
O       X   O   .   X   O   -   X     X | Udu
D   -   t   k   D   k   s   -   t   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - | Text
        P======-        | Piano
O   v   X   O   v   X   | Udu
D       T   k   k   T   | Darbouka

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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 12, 2019, 01:10:10 PM »
... OMG ... I'm not the dealer!!!
 :) ;D :D ;)

Let's look over the base pattern again (to understand the strong Khaligi feeling):

Common Khaligi (Saudi) is right like Malfuf:

1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ |
D   -   -   D   -   -   T   -   |


The new pure base comes with an additional Doum at 4th beat moving the Tak to the 5th:

1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ 5 _ _ _ |
D           D           D       T       |


Do you agree?

You may find another Saudi rhythm called "Radmaan" on khafif.com at the other side:

1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ 5 _ _ _ |
D           T       T   D       T       |



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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 09, 2019, 04:54:11 PM »
Many thanks to Mr. Mehnert for the lot of worthy material!!! - Wow, I like this topic...!

When I listened  over our 1st sample here I had an idea there must be an Udu within arrangement,  but my main impression of the piece was even that: "Hey, a Darbouka!"

So let's look the Udu pattern (sounds should be same as in introduction video to that instrument above):

bsfloyd, thank you for your transcript. - You used all "X" to show rhythm. - I changed symbols to show a relation to note heads like in pic and according sounds:
"O" is the full open tone (closing and open hole) on Udu - on Darbouka I'd prefer a Doum instead.
"X" should be played as Slaps on Udu - respectively all Tekka on Darbouka
"◇" note head or "v" in transcript might be the base sound full closing the hole! - This effect stops previous open sounding. On Darbouka we need a strong Doum followed by a Grasp: Open your palm and fingers like a fan and hit the drum slightly with little  pressure around centerfield. Motion is similar to Slap but causes a dump sound only that stops membran.

So we come to this adaptation for a Darbouka:

1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ 5 _ _ _ |
D       k   D   .   k   D       T     k |
D   g   k   D   g   k   D       T   t k |

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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 09, 2019, 08:53:12 AM »
Hi David,
great work!

@ bsfloyd

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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 07, 2019, 05:13:13 PM »
Oh dear, I'd zapped into the documentary on arte.de in March myself! - even "Oman" - it's one part of five. and stunning: Even this piece of music gathered me at all. I'd had the idea to look it over, but failed to download file from mediathek. -  So, it was a big surprise to find the request  here  - and a great motivation too...

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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 07, 2019, 01:59:59 PM »
Hello to all,
first, here is my full script of that what I hear, when I listen to the clip:

1       2       3       4       5       : Piano
… - t tkD k s - t k D - t k t k t k t tk: …=(D)?
6       7       8       9       10      : Piano
D - t k D k s - t tkD - t k t k t k - - :
11      12      13      14      15      : Text & Piano
D - t k D k s - t k D - t k t k t k - - :
16      17      18      19      |        Text & Piano
D - t k D k s - t k D - t k t k |

1       2       3       4       5       : Oud & Piano
D - - k D - S - . - D  ¿t 3 S?k T ¿Pppp?:¿t 3 S?=¿t tkt S?
6       7       8       9       10      : Oud & Piano
D - - k D - S - . - D  ¿t k t k t k ? ? :
11      12      13      14      15      : Piano & Text
D - t tkD k s - t k D - t k t k t k t tk:
16      17      18      19      |        Piano
D - t k D k s - t k D - t k t k |

1       2                                Man shouting
D - t k D …

So, you can see, by the lead of Piano chords I've got an idea of a strictly 19 beat structure in sample!

The Piano theme is of two parts with 5 accents each. The theme comes twice, but in the second time later part is shorter by one beat. - Then, next (lost!) beat is unexpected introducing a counterpart - an Oud theme of 5 counts beginning with a strong chord and repeated one time only - and followed again by same Piano theme, the shortened version.

Following my hypothesis we'd have a 19/4 time signature of a strict 5+5+5+4 structure…

By another viewpoint - according to a regional approach and the rhythmical feeling - reviewed pattern might be a polyrhythmic arrangement based on Khaligi (Saudi).

Since Awfare is a well known Muwashshah with a 19/4 time signature it might be related here too.

All in all I'm still soo fare from a solution… What would say you?!

P.S.
Soundtrack to mentioned documentary was composed by Alfred Mehnert (c)


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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« on: June 06, 2019, 07:27:47 AM »
Hi guys, you fully know how to engage one in and over night...!
 ??? ::) :P ;) :)

But I think I got it:
I now have a full script to your sample ready... (approximately - still with some copy-and-paste inside)!!!

... not sure yet - and I'd find it funny some could guess the time signature first,  before I come out with mine!!
My advice: Listen to the piano!!! - Good luck!

fb: Witch's Kitchen

btw: Mystérieuse Arabie - Oman, au pays des contes will be soon (18.06.2016) on arte.tv again.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: I am the new girl
« on: June 05, 2019, 05:38:29 PM »
 ::) :o ;D :-\ :P  ;) :)
Congrats, bsfloyd, for saluting next Spam-Profile, look:
Villars-Sainte-Croix isn't in the northern part of Switzerland...!

... and look here next one of its shape is AleishaNor

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Hi, Willys, I wouldn't stop a lot on those independence skills!  - My reason: That "skill" doesn't carry any information from performer to audience. What independence give is better organizations and handling of more and more complex patterns - that's all.

It is a time to drill those complex patterns, first before you may perform! - Though I see you avoid those skill drills doing independence drills instead.

Me, I had learned percussion on Congas for about five years when I started with Darbouka myself - transforming my former skills to the new drum. I'd see me an intermediate on Congas that time.

We had had independence drills while our Conga courses time by time. They came as an addition to new figures we had to perform, i.e. when we started with triplets we got 2:3-beat drills to do as homework - on edge of table, on knees - on every thing, wherefrom we could get some feeling in timing, haptics and sounding the principle.

By forcing that special kind of independence (and only) we got a bit more time in lessons to do the work on our triplet expressions:
About 5 to 10 minutes we started our lessons with 2:3 drills to warm up. Thereafter full power to do the lot of triplet variations!!! - So we had a complete expressive new groove for our repertoire to add at the end of lessons every time!

Same procedure with Aviel's Darbouka Lesson #7! - I had my problems in timing when performing pattern after the clip. I stopped to find the lag in my skills. ...and now, step by step, did I come to better results - until I was able to drill the whole as whole...

That's the way how independence may help you by your drills. It may be drilled separately, but that doesn't  change anything in that you have to drill your repertoire mainly!

After all my words: I can highly recommend you to follow the Darbouka Passion methodics. It really can increase your handling experience. - And that it is: All depends on this what you may perform on your own drum. You can drill the independence... - Ok, you get a great independence but no expression. - Or...

...you may drill your beloved expressions, your repertoire up and down, become a great performer at least - and you know, there is no great performer without those independence skills...!

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Willys, there's one thing you should know:
Independence isn't that skill. - It's an ability - like upright walking!

You may think on your steps, but you don't think on your balance! - Most time we remember it only when we're afraid to lose it ... and it's almost impossible to do any right step then!!! - And now you see a juggler walking the tightrope... Do you get was I mean?! - Same with independence:

Actually the skill is not to worry about! And I see you're worried a lot...

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