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... and now, I tried to do it in words first time and got an explosion of new impression.

After my brief explanation I tried to come to the roots.... So "Hagala" (الحجالة) isn't an Arab term at all...! Even the Arabs pronounce it "Hagala", not "Hajala" - it comes from the nomades and someone pointed it out with a meaning like a "shamble step" (Don't know I found the right word - "schlurfen" in German means a step motion not uplifting feet). ...and with the right term I've got that clip of a folkloric performance of the original Hagala. Open your eyes and your mouth. You cannot say "Wow!", because it's mindblowing!

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I cannot tell you for sure now. - Since I had it in a stealth mode, that way:

I often used the break at the end of this pattern to get some structure while training. It comes absolutely natural way. We have same signal in other rhythms too: look Chiftelli or Samai thaqil! - It seems to be, common like Wahda (a strong Doum on first beat). Actually I started the "Semantics" topic to seek for more.

Those state until you asked...

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Sometimes that pattern is called "Hagala", but this word actually means a dance of some desert tribes in Egypt and Libya. Thereof is a common step used in bellydance and related to this special variation of Malfuf.
Look:



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Hi dear, I'm back now.
Sorry for letting you hang here. I needed to take a breath and get free mind in personal affairs ... and I had to do a lot of new good stuff over and above that.

My relation to frame drums I may explain in your Cooperman topic.

Let me stop for now and tell you a link, what may give you a good overview according  to your question.
Look here:

https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/masters/326/

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Buy & Sell Oud / Re: Look my bags for musical instruments
« on: February 14, 2019, 04:51:45 PM »
It's amazing!

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Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Re: Darbuka newbie - *Mod: Buy a Darbuka
« on: February 06, 2019, 09:17:32 AM »
Yes, you're right - let me continue:
I stopped my last posting, even when I was up to tell you, that the Darbouka playing – well I mean the role of a Darbouka in a group of several instruments – seems to be like that, what are the Bongos in a Latin band.

In professional performances with a standard Darbouka most time we have some background playing and the Doums come from another heavier drum instead. The Doum of the Darbouka is for the communication between players and its main function is to do all the ornaments over the base.

When I choose a New Generation I had a belly dance on my mind, with a single dancer and only me with my drum beside. In that case I felt the Doums of an Innovation should be a bit too weak. That’s all I had on my mind, I had no idea, if that instrument would fit my wishes and which sounds I could really do. But I may tell you, I didn’t regret with my drum. It has good abilities for a different resonant playing. I learnt a lot on various styles – however, I failed to stay that stable and fast for a professional challenge.

You can hear the very difference in sounds from the samples. The Innovation comes with sharp Teks, the New Generation can do the Teks more “splashy” - like water drops hitting the ground… I like it - and it’s not a problem to do dry sharp tones too.

The body of the New Generation is a bit taller. The plus of metal is at the down counterweighting the head, what gives the instrument a good balance laying over your knee.

Probably that’s all, what can I tell you on advantages of the New Generation.

See you next time!

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Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Re: Darbuka newbie - *Mod: Buy a Darbuka
« on: January 30, 2019, 01:12:53 PM »
...so you can see the rating and listen to some examples - but how I would tell you the difference in my own words???

Well, you can hear great sounds with the standard size (Innovation) Darbouka. Those sounds I heard first from Arabic Pop compilations. It was fall 2009 and I had absolutely not any idea of that instrument. - But those sound... Next year, just in Christmas time I had my first contact with a real Darbouka - a mother of pearl Alexandria - and this moment totally grabbed me. - I had no choice else looking for my own new one. But I didn't know anything...

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Doumbek, Darbuka Lovers / Re: Darbuka newbie - *Mod: Buy a Darbuka
« on: January 29, 2019, 07:08:13 PM »
On slightly another note, I remember you saying that you have a “New Generation” drum.  What sets this instrument apart from a standard darbuka/doumbek?  I feel I have been advancing well in my skills and would like to upgrade to a nicer drum.  Sadly I cannot afford a quality clay instrument, but would still like to get into a nicer aluminum instrument over my plastic one.  Thanks!

Sure, we had a link before, with an overview in weight, size and prices. There you can see the New Generation is heavier, taller and a lot more expensive... I think, well, it's not the answer you're interested in.

My decision some years ago, as I remember I had had same trouble like you these days. -  Then I found this site:

https://www.arabinstruments.com/help-you-choose-darbuka



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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« on: January 29, 2019, 02:37:42 PM »
I choose that video to show you three different positions you can hold your drum:
  • on the legs
  • between the knees,
    and at least
  • on a stand

All these positions are with its own playing technique, but it should be same (or similar) sounds, when you are using same drum.

This might be a powerful setting for some experiments with sounds.

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« on: January 29, 2019, 02:12:17 PM »
I see - you're progressing...

Let me answer the hardware question in your "Newbie" topic - we have already some related stuff there.

Here I'd continue with some ideas on how to transfer your skills from drumset to Darbuka:


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Introduce Yourself / Re: New here
« on: January 26, 2019, 04:12:07 AM »
Hi Hans, me too.  :)
Where are you from?

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... nice try, I like it - really - "singing" - what an idea ...  8)

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« on: January 24, 2019, 04:55:51 AM »
...aaah,  I see ... you're not familiar with latin rhythms...

| a -  - cabal - lo - | a - - cabal - lo - |

We play

|Slap - - slapSlap - Tone - |

on Congas or Bongos

... and now Karachi:

|T--kT-D-|

This pattern came from Andalusia with conquistadors.

And it is common in African rhythms too. - Cuban rhythm Conga uses the pattern, but changes the sounds.

... and now Ayoub:

|D--kD-T-|

I'd bet a million, that you just know those patterns ... and some related variations and fills. - Adapt those stuff for your new drum. It increases your repertoire up to 1001%!!!

 ;) ;D

I actually learned a lot adapting Conga stuff for Darbuka (as technical exercises). It helped me to do nice sounds and be fluent while increasing the speed.

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« on: January 22, 2019, 07:29:38 PM »
WOW - you surprised me - you really did your lesson!

... and now, listen it again:
.... a caballo, a caballo, a caballo, a caballo ...

Something common.?!

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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« on: January 17, 2019, 11:37:43 AM »
Hello, again,
Let’s try to come to a point with the video stuff and then have the mind free for new ideas.

…and you’re right! – It’s Saidi in the performance.

The clue is – it isn’t present in the original tune. So we have both: a regular change from Maqsoum to Baladi and an irregular change from Baladi to Saidi too. A great illustration for the stuff we started with here in this topic!!! – That’s what I’d like to show you…

That’s enough for now. You may see in the clip, the performance was at a wedding day. You can find the couple right in the picture at mark 1:55. The video is named to be an improvisation.
I guess someone of the guests asked the musicians to play the widely known tune – and they did it.
In those bands it is normal to have some new stuff on the least drum –with instruction to play the base only for training. That newbie failed once being confused whether the double Doum in Baladi occurs - but when – fromt or middle…?!. – (Saidi is often used for bellydance, and comes a bit various and tricky.)
You can hear (and see) the man failing first time at 0:45s. Only due to the great professionalism, I hope so, the whole ensemble follows and plays Saidi with a taste of Baladi like one man. It’s life - really, I like it!

Let’s stop with that now. (I will come back on this stuff in the “Semantics” topic.)

Better look here this:


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