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Ney, Kawala Lovers / Re: Everything is Flat!
« Last post by dHuGo on June 15, 2019, 05:52:42 PM »
Hi Yildiz,
after about a month, is your problem still evident?! - Me, I'm not succeeded to play on any flute - and Niri seems to be busy, busy a lot these days....

Now I remembered your topic not having any answer, I read over your question again. As an technician I might have some idea of what you're talking about - and now realised, that you don't have your problem with plastic Ney, while same troubles with all the reed, isnit?! - Then all problem is within material!!!

I think, reed as a natural recource should be a bit porous and "breathing", not so synthetics. So, you cannot avoid some lost of air in a dry reed tube. I wondered, might be to find even your problem in that. And than I found an advice to water your Ney every time before using...! Look here

http://www.bardoworks.it/NeyFAQ.html

pretty at the end.

I'd like to hear, my tip does work or not!
And good luck for your performance in August.
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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« Last post by bsfloyd on June 15, 2019, 06:32:14 AM »
Great work, dHuGo,  Now we have a detailed score  :)

@ davidko2 - I think the confusing part is that there are several parts working off each other, and the piano part is very syncopated with its off beats.  I think if you play either parts (udu or darbuka as posted above) it will sound just fine.  And, if you wish to create your own line within those two rhythms you can have your own creation   ;)

Have fun with it!
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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« Last post by dHuGo on June 14, 2019, 06:50:31 PM »
Hi, David, sorry it's all in process...

My 1st script was on a hypothesis of a 19 beat pattern related to the Piano chords as beat. - Now we have information that's a 5/4 base and Udu gives the timing! That means the Piano actually plays half notes, so we really have 38 beats instead of 19 in first part! There is a Cymbal playng the beats in 1st record.

I try to rewrite whole script, here is the beginning:

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
P===----        P===----        P===----| Piano
O       X   O   .   X   O   -   X     X | Udu
D   -   t   k   D   k   s   -   t   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
        P======-        P======-        | Piano
O   v   X   O   v   X   O       X   X X | Udu
D       T   k   k   T           T   t k | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
P===----        P===----        P===----| Piano
O       X   O   .   X   O   -   X     X | Udu
D   -   t   k   D   k   s   -   t   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
        P======-        P======-        | Piano
O   v   X   O   v   X   O       X   X X | Udu
D       T   k   k   T           T   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
pP==----        P===----        P===----| Piano
O       X   O   .   X   O   -   X     X | Udu
D   -   t   k   D   k   s   -   t   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
        P======-    p===P======-        | Piano
O   v   X   O   v   X   O       X   X X | Udu
D       T   k   k   T           T   t k | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - 4 - + - 5 - + - |
P===----        P===----        P===----| Piano
O       X   O   .   X   O   -   X     X | Udu
D   -   t   k   D   k   s   -   t   k   | Darbouka

1 - + - 2 - + - 3 - + - | Text
        P======-        | Piano
O   v   X   O   v   X   | Udu
D       T   k   k   T   | Darbouka
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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« Last post by davidko2 on June 14, 2019, 12:56:08 AM »
Now I am lost

on your first script, the two Dums are on the 1s and 2nd beat:

1       2       3       4       5       : Piano
- t tkD k s - t k D - t k t k t k t tk: =(D)?
6       7       8       9       10      : Piano
D - t k D k s - t tkD - t k t k t k - - :
11      12      13      14      15      : Text & Piano
D - t k D k s - t k D - t k t k t k - - :
16      17      18      19      |        Text & Piano
D - t k D k s - t k D - t k t k |


However your last version does not have two dums on the beat:
1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ 5 _ _ _ |
D       k   D   .   k   D       T     k |
D   g   k   D   g   k   D       T   t k |



What am I missing?

I think your first script is closer to what I hear in the video
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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« Last post by bsfloyd on June 13, 2019, 04:04:53 PM »
thanks a lot!

time to work on it now.

Also, this website is a gem: http://www.khafif.com/rhy/rhylist.html

My favorite resource!!
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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« Last post by davidko2 on June 12, 2019, 09:50:40 PM »
thanks a lot!

time to work on it now.

Also, this website is a gem: http://www.khafif.com/rhy/rhylist.html

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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« Last post by bsfloyd on June 12, 2019, 05:39:10 PM »
Ah ha - yes, I see it (and more so feel it).  Another new 5 beat rhythm to add to my playing!
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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Help needed to identify a ryhtm
« Last post by dHuGo on June 12, 2019, 01:10:10 PM »
... OMG ... I'm not the dealer!!!
 :) ;D :D ;)

Let's look over the base pattern again (to understand the strong Khaligi feeling):

Common Khaligi (Saudi) is right like Malfuf:

1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ |
D   -   -   D   -   -   T   -   |


The new pure base comes with an additional Doum at 4th beat moving the Tak to the 5th:

1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ 5 _ _ _ |
D           D           D       T       |


Do you agree?

You may find another Saudi rhythm called "Radmaan" on khafif.com at the other side:

1 _ _ _ 2 _ _ _ 3 _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ 5 _ _ _ |
D           T       T   D       T       |


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