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Introduce Yourself / Welcome aboard Trasiup
« Last post by New Member has Joined on January 09, 2019, 12:32:57 PM »
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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« Last post by dHuGo on January 09, 2019, 08:15:12 AM »
 :) ;)


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I’m curious, is there ever a time when the rhythms Maqsum and Beledi would be played in the same sitting?  Alternating the Doums and Teks?

To alternate Doums and Teks? - Never ever...!  ;)

The basic pattern of a rhythm is build of a row of different Doums, Teks (and rests). That is typical - this gives the rhythm a signature, a meaning - a unique style at least.

You may ask me, as a beginner: "Ok, but I have some Ka in the base I'm now playing...?" - So let's stop on it and me tell you: "What is a Ka?!" - ... should be same like a Tek- but actually played with wrong hand instead.  :) Ka is featuring the Teks. Playing some alternating Tekka you get an ornament, a roll!

That's why it is important to do the Tekka with the same or similar sound, independent of you are playing right now a Tek (with your strong hand) or Ka (with the weaker one). It’s communication. Audience but dancers will hear your pattern and get some orientation what’s going up now.

That way Doums and Teks are encoding semantics of the pattern. - In Arabic rhythms there is it like in Arabian language too:
All the Arabian words have a root what’s encoded by the row of (mostly three) consonants in it, i.e. “KTB” means “written”.

That gives the word a basic meaning, what never will change for the whole word family and all word forms within are featuring with different vocals in between the root of the words:
  • “KiTaB” gives you the result of the writing, a book (but it may be a note or a letter as well)
  • “maKTaB” marks the place of the writing - an office (but same for the table you’re writing on)
  • “alKaaTiB” – the person who performs the writing etc.
And in drumming?! – You have a basic pattern and several variations of it. - It’s like telling a story in words…


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Introduce Yourself / Welcome aboard Jersevaday
« Last post by New Member has Joined on January 08, 2019, 04:54:05 PM »
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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« Last post by bsfloyd on January 08, 2019, 04:24:38 PM »
Hello dHuGo - thank you for the links!  I added the Iqa’ index to my bookmarks (I have very many so far:)).  These will be very handy.  I think we need to edit and add more content to that Wiki page.  I tend to always check Wiki when researching any kind of information.  When I checked this Wiki page I was a bit let down by the lack of content.  I think the right people could really do wonders for this page.

So yes, I wondered about that overlap in similarities between the various rhythms and was curious.  I did not take into consideration the actual music being played to the rhythms.  And now I see, just as in pop music, the same rhythm or drum beat carries over to different styles of pop music.  Certainly why not middle eastern music as well.  I’m curious, is there ever a time when the rhythms Maqsum and Beledi would be played in the same sitting?  Alternating the Doums and Teks?

Yes, Karol’s videos were the very first I came across when I first got my darbuka!  I learned my basic tones and starting techniques from them.  I am certainly going to watch his advanced videos when I feel I am ready.  I know I need to learn how to walk before I can run ;)
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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Great video
« Last post by dHuGo on January 08, 2019, 05:51:52 AM »
... I see ... let's do that next year then ...
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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« Last post by dHuGo on January 08, 2019, 04:44:28 AM »
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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Training / Practice plan
« Last post by dHuGo on January 08, 2019, 04:25:14 AM »
After about five years of  struggle I may tell you that you cannot avoid all this Maqsoum/Baladi stuff. - You can find it through the genres and it seems to me even that should be THE starter pack for all drumming children in eastern world.

Note the basics:

|DT-TD-T-| called "Maqsoum" (مقسوم literally "Divided") is the Arabian Funk.
|DD-TD-T-| commonly known as "Baladi" (بلدي "Balad" means "Countryside" or "Homeland"), but actually this pattern belongs to the "Masmoudi saghir" (مصمودي صغير "Small from Masmouda", what is a place in Morocco, between Tanger and Fez - often you find a pattern called after a town or region)

Those patterns are all 4/4 and you may find a lot of related styles, i.e.:

|DT-DD-T-| Saidi (صعيدي from Port Said)
|TD-TD-T-| Katakufti (كتاكفتي - I have no idea) what is a typical base for Dabke dances.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbek_rhythms

You may find all it's the same rhythms, but those styles differ in melody, speed and accordingly in variations, ornamentations and fills too. - There is a wide range of interpretations within, so I cannot explain it to the end. All depends of that guys you may find to play with...
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Darbuka Sound & Video Clips / Re: Great video
« Last post by bsfloyd on January 07, 2019, 03:47:28 PM »
No way, not my level.... I just like dreaming, lol!!
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Introduce Yourself / Welcome aboard Reinianasy
« Last post by New Member has Joined on January 07, 2019, 03:28:29 PM »
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