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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Hand Independence techniques?
« Last post by dHuGo on May 31, 2019, 02:57:29 AM »
Hi, Willys, I wouldn't stop a lot on those independence skills!  - My reason: That "skill" doesn't carry any information from performer to audience. What independence give is better organizations and handling of more and more complex patterns - that's all.

It is a time to drill those complex patterns, first before you may perform! - Though I see you avoid those skill drills doing independence drills instead.

Me, I had learned percussion on Congas for about five years when I started with Darbouka myself - transforming my former skills to the new drum. I'd see me an intermediate on Congas that time.

We had had independence drills while our Conga courses time by time. They came as an addition to new figures we had to perform, i.e. when we started with triplets we got 2:3-beat drills to do as homework - on edge of table, on knees - on every thing, wherefrom we could get some feeling in timing, haptics and sounding the principle.

By forcing that special kind of independence (and only) we got a bit more time in lessons to do the work on our triplet expressions:
About 5 to 10 minutes we started our lessons with 2:3 drills to warm up. Thereafter full power to do the lot of triplet variations!!! - So we had a complete expressive new groove for our repertoire to add at the end of lessons every time!

Same procedure with Aviel's Darbouka Lesson #7! - I had my problems in timing when performing pattern after the clip. I stopped to find the lag in my skills. ...and now, step by step, did I come to better results - until I was able to drill the whole as whole...

That's the way how independence may help you by your drills. It may be drilled separately, but that doesn't  change anything in that you have to drill your repertoire mainly!

After all my words: I can highly recommend you to follow the Darbouka Passion methodics. It really can increase your handling experience. - And that it is: All depends on this what you may perform on your own drum. You can drill the independence... - Ok, you get a great independence but no expression. - Or...

...you may drill your beloved expressions, your repertoire up and down, become a great performer at least - and you know, there is no great performer without those independence skills...!
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Willys, there's one thing you should know:
Independence isn't that skill. - It's an ability - like upright walking!

You may think on your steps, but you don't think on your balance! - Most time we remember it only when we're afraid to lose it ... and it's almost impossible to do any right step then!!! - And now you see a juggler walking the tightrope... Do you get was I mean?! - Same with independence:

Actually the skill is not to worry about! And I see you're worried a lot...

That's right... I worry too much  :D It took me forever to learn and re-learn and get some middle speed continous rolls, and now I realized that without that skill I can't do nothing but to play some middle difficulty songs.

Hello Willys!  Iím sorry, there are no other lesson techniques I found in regards to your question.  Surely the video you found and posted cover this independence technique, as does the video dHuGo posted earlier on in the thread.

I guess hand independence was never a concern to me as Iíve played percussion instruments for many, many years.  Because of this, limb independence comes more natural to me.  And, you may find as you watch different videos of different players that they are not always the same ;). Keep in mind that the darbuka / doumbek is a folk instrument to many.

However, dHuGo posted a link to one of the best sites for darbuka learning and playing that I know of - the khafif site.  When I was applying my percussive skills to the darbuka, I just followed the rule of D(oum) and T(ek) with my right (dominant) hand, and the k(a) with my left hand.  The khafif site has the many, many rhythms in their basic form and then the rhythms with their fills form.  While this doesnít fully go into soling mode, it does offer a good fancier version of the rhythms.  IMO, the soloing will come natural as these foundations are mastered.

On another note, my wife is currently undergoing belly dance learnings.  She is much preferring the Egyptian style of dance.  It is much fun to be able to play the rhythms for her.  In your regards, your wife is a dance instructor, are there any other drummers in your area you could learn from/with?

There are drummers, but as far as I know I'm the only one in my state that has medium derbake playings skills. (Look for Tierra del Fuego, Argentina in google maps and you'll understand  ;D).

Found 2 more videos:





And this ones helped me with that too





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Doumbek Advice, Tips Questions & Lessons / Re: Hand Independence techniques?
« Last post by bsfloyd on May 28, 2019, 06:06:46 PM »
Hello Willys!  Iím sorry, there are no other lesson techniques I found in regards to your question.  Surely the video you found and posted cover this independence technique, as does the video dHuGo posted earlier on in the thread.

I guess hand independence was never a concern to me as Iíve played percussion instruments for many, many years.  Because of this, limb independence comes more natural to me.  And, you may find as you watch different videos of different players that they are not always the same ;). Keep in mind that the darbuka / doumbek is a folk instrument to many.

However, dHuGo posted a link to one of the best sites for darbuka learning and playing that I know of - the khafif site.  When I was applying my percussive skills to the darbuka, I just followed the rule of D(oum) and T(ek) with my right (dominant) hand, and the k(a) with my left hand.  The khafif site has the many, many rhythms in their basic form and then the rhythms with their fills form.  While this doesnít fully go into soling mode, it does offer a good fancier version of the rhythms.  IMO, the soloing will come natural as these foundations are mastered.

On another note, my wife is currently undergoing belly dance learnings.  She is much preferring the Egyptian style of dance.  It is much fun to be able to play the rhythms for her.  In your regards, your wife is a dance instructor, are there any other drummers in your area you could learn from/with?
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Introduce Yourself / Welcome aboard Williamrom
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